So it turns out the girl who was in Hillary’s infamous 3 am phone call ad is all grown up (the commercial used stock footage) and she supports Barack Obama. And she’s letting everyone know. Not only that…but she wasn’t really asleep. (-;
Casey Knowles, now 18, absolutely hates that her image is being used for what she calls “fear mongering.” I couldn’t agree more. I’m not sure I want the same person (who thinks it’s ok to use the very same tactics Republican do) answering that phone AT ANY TIME and making decisions for us.
Will her decisions really be the best for US or will they be made to enhance her own political viability? And considering what we’ve seen so far, can we really expect anything new and different from a Hillary Clinton administration? We only have her willingness to follow the same old methods of campaigning as our answer. But for me, it’s troubling.
For the rest of the sleeping girl story:
March 11, 2008 at 1:04 pm |
March 11, 2008 at 4:01 pm |
Thanks for the comment! I don’t really see evil as much as the awful nature of politics. But maybe it’s just semantics.
I actually like Barack Obama a lot, although a political campaign is a tough place to try to run on messages of fair play and unity. I just hope the ugliness stops soon. Unfortunately, I think we’re stuck with that until November. At which time I pray for a change from what we have now – at the very least to protect our Supreme Court from becoming 100% far right.
Peace out and in, Grace.
March 11, 2008 at 7:31 pm |
LOL, we were laughing about that. Coming up with mock commercials…pan to grown up girl dialing phone…
“Obama here.”
“Thank God.”
“Excuse me?”
“Ever since that call years ago, I’ve been trying to dial you…”
Yes, many variations of the same we invented with much mirth.
Peace be to you today.
March 11, 2008 at 9:43 pm |
Smiling. I can only imagine some of the rest of them!
Peace and hugs to you.
March 12, 2008 at 5:32 pm |
LOL Well, that ‘lesser of two evils’ was just sort of an old cliche, Ronnie Ann, more than a judgement of character. But I think we’re on the same page.
Unfortunately, after reviewing Obama’s voting record, I can’t support him. He’s the Liberal’s Liberal. He’s missed 207 of the voting opportunities he’s had in Congress – a really poor showing relative to his peers. He voted “Present” 129 times in the Illionis legislature..essentially a “No” vote..but at the very least, it’s a sign that he couldn’t commit when some major issues are at stake.
And for me, personally, his record on a couple issues near and dear to me are unacceptable. He and his wife have a history of radical support for partial birth abortions – something I happen to think is an abomination (and I am a pro-choicer):
Voted against banning partial birth abortion. (Oct 2007)
Voted to allow women to make own decisions on partial-birth abortion. (Apr 2007)
Voted NO on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
Also he has voted against private gun ownership, mandatory sentencing and abstained from voting on legislation that would keep pornographic video stores and strip clubs from within 1,000 feet of schools.
There’s alot of other things about him that I really support. But these things are enough to put me off. NOT that I’ll be voting for Billary, either! lol
March 12, 2008 at 6:16 pm |
Well…we are in strong disagreement here, Grace. I support almost all of Barack’s positions and certainly the ones I care deepest about – those that will shape who our country is domestically and abroad. Love his strength of conviction and deep understanding of how things really work – and he is not afraid to take an uncomfortable and less sound-byte-friendly position if he thinks it’s right. But thanks for sharing your views. I know good people look at the same thing and see very different pictures. Oh…as for the Illinois votes, that is something people don’t understand about Illinois. It’s the way they do things. And by the way…like Barack Obama, I too am the Liberal’s Liberal when it come to human rights…and I am a passionate fiscal conservative when it comes to not mortgaging our children’s future with an ill-conceived war and tax cuts largely to the rich, unlike our current administration. McCain will be more of the same and push the Supreme Court in a way I cannot condone not just for the rights of liberals but for everyone (privacy, etc.)…plus he has a nasty nasty temper and I sure don’t want HIM answering that 3 am phone. “Who the #$%%#@%^% is this? I’m sleeping!”
But as I said…good people differ on how they decide to vote. Appreciate your thoughts. Guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
March 12, 2008 at 6:22 pm |
McCain has deep anger issues and is a Hawk. SO I’m definitely not voting for him either.
Sticking with Ron Paul here…even though it would take a miracle for him to win, he’s the one with views most closely matching my own.
This election sure makes for good discussion, doesn’t it? Which totally ROCKS – it’s like people are really AWAKE this time around.
ROCK THE VOTE, girlfriend!!!
March 12, 2008 at 6:47 pm |
You got it Grace! We definitely agree about how wonderful it is to see so many people awake and taking part in their own future. I love the energy of people fully engaged in a process.
By the way…I am not learned enough to go into all the details here at this time, but on some of Barack’s votes as well as the votes of all elected officials, it looks like they are fully in support of or against something, but often they are against the stuff being snuck into the bill, making it so hard to drill down to the essence. Like the partial-birth abortion bill (a clever name coined by the right) not allowing for a mother’s life being in jeopardy – and the whole bill being promoted anyway as the first step in setting legal precedent to eliminate choice, rather than the reason they say it is for. I can understand your deep-felt objections, Grace; I just resent that this was all packaged and played as part of a bigger goal with some uncomfortable (and for me unacceptable) language included. And I believe this is why Barack did not support it. I know it’s nuanced, but he is someone I trust to understand the bigger picture and vote with conscious conscience. But attacks on how people vote focus on the name of the bill and not what was snuck into it; and I think that stinks.
That’s why it’s not fair when any of them – even my man Barack who does it too – tries to paint a full picture from a person’s vote for or against something. These bills are so loaded with crap and sneaky devices, many aimed just to derail a person by their vote. That’s why I hate this stuff – although it is fascinating too.
Just imagine if Congress prepared bills in a way that was clear and just for the purpose it claims to be! Now I would vote for THAT big time!!
Ooops….there I go getting passionate again. Sorry. I’ll have to go take a chill pill. Glad you have a candidate you can feel good about. I love the feeling! Ron Paul certainly does make McCain’s straight talk express look like a maze. And I love how many people are excited by what he stands for.
Peace in and out, girlfriend.
March 13, 2008 at 1:38 pm |
Okay, I’m going to take this a whole different direction. I work in advertising. To me, this just demonstrates how using stock footage–or stock photography–can jump up and bite you on the ass. Had Clinton’s ad agency been allowed to shoot the commercial instead of relying on stock footage, we wouldn’t be having this discussion now.
And as far as the girl is concerned, if you take the check for a photo or film shoot, just take your money and shut the hell up. It comes with the territory. You sign a model release—that means your image can be used by whomever for whatever. Including ads for laxatives, drug abuse, erectile dysfunction or, heaven forbid, supporting a candidate you don’t like. Too bad. You cashed the check.
March 13, 2008 at 2:39 pm |
Thanks for the perspective of someone in the business, Terry. I will add that I think she was a minor when the deal was done. But I get your point. Regardless, I love the irony. Especially considering the ad replicates the alarm systems ads and may have had a less-admirable secondary message. Although, of course I have no way of knowing that.
March 15, 2008 at 3:27 pm |
Well, then a parent signed the model release. Same deal. Would be stage moms and dads should take note of this. Want your kid’s picture to turn up in a child abuse or bed wetting ad?
March 15, 2008 at 3:51 pm |
Hello again Terry. Glad you wrote that reminder for parents and anyone signing a release. They need to know what they might be doing to their kids!
Here’s my take on it. If I (or my parents for me) had signed a release during my limited time as an actress and it wound up years later being used to promote segregation or a run for Congress by Carl Rove for instance, I would not have the right to ask them to stop using it…but I sure would have the right to speak up and give my opinion about the cause, candidate, or whatever it’s being used for. Free speech still rules here. And the case in point is a good example. Of course she has a right to speak up and let her opinion be heard – she just can’t stop them from using it. (Although I do wonder in a very different case where something truly reprehensible is being promoted with a recognizable image if there might not be privacy rights or other legal trumping of the basic contractual rights.)
Thing is, when you are an actor/actress looking for work, you can’t conceive of all that can be done with your image. In the excitement of finally getting a “break”, even understanding all we’ve discussed, very few would turn down the work. That doesn’t mean one day that can’t make their opinions known about something else the image is being used for. Unless they also specifically signed that right away.
Still…your warning is well taken. Good to be informed by a pro about the downsides. Any image we sign away the rights to (and some we don’t) can live on forever and be used in any way at all within the rights assigned.
Thanks for an interesting discussion!
March 16, 2008 at 12:31 am |
Yer always my girl Ronnie Ann – I think I’ve finally found my candidate. For a while there I’d considered not voting for the first time in my life but I got bitten and I know now who I’m going to be (mostly) happy to vote for.
((((Ronnie Ann))))
One of the few blogs I know I can visit and always be cared for and about … you’re a sweetie.
March 16, 2008 at 12:15 pm |
I am touched by those words, dear Ruby. Thank you so much. Oh I’m such a sap. I’m actually tearing up.
But I know who the real sweetie is.
As for candidates and politics…just like us, they are all flawed. All we can do I think is find one that best represents who we are and what we want. There are so many other factors no one person can ever do all that they want – as sincere as they may be. That’s the awful nature of politics. All I ask is that they do their best for the people who elected them and remember how much help this country and this planet needs right now on every level.
Thanks for the visit, Ms. SchooZ. Have a lovely Sunday, ((((((RS)))))).